how to get rid of a rip off report?

[Ramish Rana]

If any entrepreneur or company owner has been struck by a "RipOff Report", they have my full sympathy. Not only because the defamation leads to serious losses but the so called "arbitrator fees" cost up to 2000$! This too by the very site that put you in this nightmare in the first place. I won't kid around, the idea that I wake up one morning to find my site "optimized" due to a ranking on "RipOff", is nothing short of terrorizing (probably why so many business owners consider RipOff an extortionist and a terrorist).

However, "keeping your cool" is probably the last thing on anyone's mind when their business is being ripped apart by a "RipOff Report". Negative, angry and irrational responses will do absolutely squat, all the righteous indignation in the world can't save you from the search engine onslaught that will begin after (Your customer just sees you listed on a site called RipOff, he doesn't care whether its a mistake or that your innocent or not). Negative PR can be combated with "White-Hat" SEO, apologizing (more than one company has had to swallow their pride), Making public statements to clear your name is a route many try and all of it finally boils down to a very hissy defamation lawsuit that you will end up losing anyways. So far the score cards show an obvious bias,

RipOff 100 - Everybody else 0

Hundred being the number of cases RipOff has won. They are nice enough to have a WHOLE page on WHY you shouldn't sue them and (unfortunately) they are right. RipOff is insulated from legal repercussions by the "Communications Decency Act". They cannot be held responsible for any third party publications on their site. You can hire a good agency to "bury" the bad content about you, at least from the first page of Google search but since the listings on RipOff are insanely strong, any success with burying is known to be short-lived or time consuming (not in the interest of the company, a RipOff report is a ticking bomb on a business)


Here is a "not so secret" way to help you get rid of the listings from Google which is as good as getting rid of it altogether.

1-Getting RipOff to remove you from its lists might be a long shot but you CAN get Google to help out. You need to be honest here for this to work. If you file a complaint against the original author (NOT Google or RipOff, they have plenty of great lawyers to beat you.) using a viable legal claim and present a court order to Google they will definitely remove the damaging search result. The downside to this is the legal burden but that is still better than suing RipOff and will definitely cost much less than the so called "Arbitrary Fees" provided by RipOff. The listing remains on RipOff BUT so long as it doesn't show on Google it might as well be invisible.

RipOff mentions a "advocacy Program" to help "investigate" the malicious charges against you. Naturally, this service comes with a hefty price tag, Google on the other hand doesn't charge you anything. If you are willing to tackle RipOff rather than swallowing the VERY bitter, 2000$ pill of safety this is THE best route. If your honest and are being wrongfully accused, take things in your hand and don't let RipOff damage your reputation.

Spreading knowledge turns it into wisdom, I hope this allows innocent entrepreneurs to protect themselves wisely!

 

[Guillermo Mata]

Awesome post.

Rip off reports suck for any business but is an extremely profitable service. If you can do "SEO, Link Building etc" you'll be just fine in this space . Guys are charging monthly bills of $1,197 just to remove these reports using basic methods video, blogs etc. Its all about the consistency I always say. Appreciate this article definitely good read!.

Guillermo -

 

[netafile]

RipOff mentions a "advocacy Program" to help "investigate" the malicious charges against you. Naturally, this service comes with a hefty price tag, Google on the other hand doesn't charge you anything. If you are willing to tackle RipOff rather than swallowing the VERY bitter, 2000$ pill of safety this is THE best route. If your honest and are being wrongfully accused, take things in your hand and don't let RipOff damage your reputation.

Spreading knowledge turns it into wisdom, I hope this allows innocent entrepreneurs to protect themselves wisely!

Are you saying RR charges $2K for their "Advocacy Program" to get your listing blocked from the search engines?

 

[Ramish Rana]

What happens is that Ripoff initiates an “investigation” into the bad reports made about you. If the investigation holds in your favor they post the positive results above the negative content. Ripoff Report can state that you resolved any issues and are now a 100% committed to customer satisfaction (provided that you have made such a commitment to Ripoff Report). However, you are STILL listed there. I don't think think that in it self is any comfort. When I say "the bitter 2000$ pill" that is for the arbitrary services they offer. They do charge you for joining their “Corporate Advocacy Program" but not 2000$ in exact. Hope this helps.

 

[Ramish Rana]

If you want more details, PM me. I can guide you in more detail.

 

[appmarketing]

Awesome post.

Rip off reports suck for any business but is an extremely profitable service. If you can do "SEO, Link Building etc" you'll be just fine in this space . Guys are charging monthly bills of $1,197 just to remove these reports using basic methods video, blogs etc. Its all about the consistency I always say. Appreciate this article definitely good read!.

Guillermo -

Hi Guillermo, I had a client 3 years ago I tried to help with Rep Management but executed the job poorly because A) I charged less than what was necessary, B) I promised him this could be done in 3 months and C) I wanted to land the contract. By the time the 3 months were up I managed to push the RipOff Report down from page #1 for 80% of the keywords. After a while back it reverted to its old position all the way up and I feel like I've done a disservice to this man.

This article really caught my attention and I would like to know how I can help him out. It says, "If you file a complaint against the original author using a viable legal claim and present a court order to Google they will definitely remove the damaging search result..."

Question: How can I do that for my former customer and B) how would you approach him again after so long explaining him how to get rid of this problem?

Also what happens if the statements on the RipOff Report are somewhat true but yet are irrelevant because the incident happened years ago? No-one really cares, however the mere sight of a RipOff Report is enough to dissuade others to do business with you. Following this example, what can you do to remove it nevertheless from the search results? Thanks in advance for your reply.

Kind Regards,

AppMarketing

 

[appmarketing]

Hi Ramish I pose the same question to you as I did Guillermo. I had a client 3 years ago I tried to help with Rep Management but executed the job poorly because A) I charged less than what was necessary, B) I promised him this could be done in 3 months and C) I wanted to land the contract. By the time the 3 months were up I managed to push the RipOff Report down from page #1 for 80% of the keywords. After a while back it reverted to its old position all the way up and I feel like I've done a disservice to this man.

This article really caught my attention and I would like to know how I can help him out. It says, "If you file a complaint against the original author using a viable legal claim and present a court order to Google they will definitely remove the damaging search result..."

Question: How can I do that for my former customer and B) how would you approach him again after so long explaining him how to get rid of this problem?

Also what happens if the statements on the RipOff Report are somewhat true but yet are irrelevant because the incident happened years ago? No-one really cares, however the mere sight of a RipOff Report is enough to dissuade others to do business with you. Following this example, what can you do to remove it nevertheless from the search results? Thanks in advance for your reply.

Kind Regards,

AppMarketing

 

[Ramish Rana]

Hi AppMarketing,

I think we all have been there, at one point or the other to land a contract we have promised results that are a bit too ambitious. However, I am impressed with your desire to help this client of yours. As I said in my post that a RipOff listing is very strong, it usually reverts back to it's original position at one time or another. The problem with burying is that it doesn't really get rid of the Report.

"If you file a complaint against the original author using a viable legal claim and present a court order to Google they will definitely remove the damaging search result..."

When I say this, you can tell your client to file a case against the original poster and if it holds, (it usually does if you are honest.) For this solution to work, your client needs a lawyer and a court order. So all the search results will show is this,

"In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 1(s) result from this page. If you wish you may read more about the request at chillingeffects.org."

This is as good as getting rid of the report. Because it's the search results that cause the real damage.

You can help your client by enlightening them to this solution. If you wish to approach them, I suggest you try being clear and straightforward with them like you have been here. You can provide them this solution to create "good will" rather than making money. In my opinion, this will land you the client's trust and THAT beats short term clients. It might sound insane and I hate quoting this cliche', but the rabbit loses the race for a reason.

If the RipOff report is in any way accurate, then going for a legal fight might not be the best route. In this case burying it or opting for "RipOff's Arbitrator Program" is your best bet. That costs around $2000, so weigh your pros and cons here, would paying this fee now save your client from a loss of business in the future due to the report? If yes, than go for it.

I hope this helped.

 

[gwallis]

If any entrepreneur or company owner has been struck by a "RipOff Report", they have my full sympathy. Not only because the defamation leads to serious losses but the so called "arbitrator fees" cost up to 2000$! This too by the very site that put you in this nightmare in the first place. I won't kid around, the idea that I wake up one morning to find my site "optimized" due to a ranking on "RipOff", is nothing short of terrorizing (probably why so many business owners consider RipOff an extortionist and a terrorist).

However, "keeping your cool" is probably the last thing on anyone's mind when their business is being ripped apart by a "RipOff Report". Negative, angry and irrational responses will do absolutely squat, all the righteous indignation in the world can't save you from the search engine onslaught that will begin after (Your customer just sees you listed on a site called RipOff, he doesn't care whether its a mistake or that your innocent or not). Negative PR can be combated with "White-Hat" SEO, apologizing (more than one company has had to swallow their pride), Making public statements to clear your name is a route many try and all of it finally boils down to a very hissy defamation lawsuit that you will end up losing anyways. So far the score cards show an obvious bias,

RipOff 100 - Everybody else 0

Hundred being the number of cases RipOff has won. They are nice enough to have a WHOLE page on WHY you shouldn't sue them and (unfortunately) they are right. RipOff is insulated from legal repercussions by the "Communications Decency Act". They cannot be held responsible for any third party publications on their site. You can hire a good agency to "bury" the bad content about you, at least from the first page of Google search but since the listings on RipOff are insanely strong, any success with burying is known to be short-lived or time consuming (not in the interest of the company, a RipOff report is a ticking bomb on a business)


Here is a "not so secret" way to help you get rid of the listings from Google which is as good as getting rid of it altogether.

1-Getting RipOff to remove you from its lists might be a long shot but you CAN get Google to help out. You need to be honest here for this to work. If you file a complaint against the original author (NOT Google or RipOff, they have plenty of great lawyers to beat you.) using a viable legal claim and present a court order to Google they will definitely remove the damaging search result. The downside to this is the legal burden but that is still better than suing RipOff and will definitely cost much less than the so called "Arbitrary Fees" provided by RipOff. The listing remains on RipOff BUT so long as it doesn't show on Google it might as well be invisible.

RipOff mentions a "advocacy Program" to help "investigate" the malicious charges against you. Naturally, this service comes with a hefty price tag, Google on the other hand doesn't charge you anything. If you are willing to tackle RipOff rather than swallowing the VERY bitter, 2000$ pill of safety this is THE best route. If your honest and are being wrongfully accused, take things in your hand and don't let RipOff damage your reputation.

Spreading knowledge turns it into wisdom, I hope this allows innocent entrepreneurs to protect themselves wisely!

Here is what I would do if it were me. My name and creations are my property. You no permission to use my property without just compensation and consent. First, I would give them a warning via a notice to correct their harm. If no answer , I would send a second notice with my bill attached for the use of the property and give them another chance to cure their harm. My third letter would be a default notice with the bill again, but as payment due and owing. Now, how do you collect? You have already processed your claim, now you go to the lien where their property is located.

 

[Guillermo Mata]

Hi Guillermo, I had a client 3 years ago I tried to help with Rep Management but executed the job poorly because A) I charged less than what was necessary, B) I promised him this could be done in 3 months and C) I wanted to land the contract. By the time the 3 months were up I managed to push the RipOff Report down from page #1 for 80% of the keywords. After a while back it reverted to its old position all the way up and I feel like I've done a disservice to this man.

This article really caught my attention and I would like to know how I can help him out. It says, "If you file a complaint against the original author using a viable legal claim and present a court order to Google they will definitely remove the damaging search result..."

Question: How can I do that for my former customer and B) how would you approach him again after so long explaining him how to get rid of this problem?

Also what happens if the statements on the RipOff Report are somewhat true but yet are irrelevant because the incident happened years ago? No-one really cares, however the mere sight of a RipOff Report is enough to dissuade others to do business with you. Following this example, what can you do to remove it nevertheless from the search results? Thanks in advance for your reply.

Kind Regards,

AppMarketing

Reputation management services aren’t a (Short term) service like websites, graphics etc. Requires lots of work and long hours as we all know.

If I where you I would get in touch with an attorney have them type up a contract with your (terms). That’s probably where you messed up you didn’t let your client
Know that it’s “In fact” up to them the success of the project. If they decide to stop its
Not your fault. And you shouldn’t be held liable for doing a disservice to them!. Start documenting your progress just in case you just never know.

I take long term precautions before I do anything so I wouldn’t be in a situation like this at all. If I where I would just try to find a middle ground , and offer them an additional 1 or 2 weeks free. Rite at that point I would get them to sign off on my terms and conditions.

All reviews must be accurate and your clients should provide some time of evidence this. Consumers have all rights to share there (Opinion) on there service. As long as its not slanderous or defames the business.

Overall continue to work at it (B2B) work something out so he doesn’t feel left out. If you just run off after he paid you and the reviews come back up he may file a dispute against you. Just play it cool make them feel good rank some videos, blogs etc.

Let them know your there to support don’t matter what.

G -

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[jweb]

Having worked with several internet defamation/libel attys and also reputation.com's counsel on the legal strategies to get ROR removed from SERPs, it costs about $10k. I'm sure it can be done cheaper but this is just and FYI. When done properly it works well and takes about 2-3 months.

 

[admin]

Having worked with several internet defamation/libel attys and also reputation.com's counsel on the legal strategies to get ROR removed from SERPs, it costs about $10k. I'm sure it can be done cheaper but this is just and FYI. When done properly it works well and takes about 2-3 months.

Interesting.....

 

[Plateau]

There is a special hell for people who file fake RipOff Reports. From the body of one guilty deed a thousand ghostly fears and haunting thoughts proceed. When someone does that, there are no rules.

 

[Plateau]

Someone once posted a fake RipOff Report on my sister and her company. It nearly destroyed her life It was a terrible thing to see and I agree that nobody should have to live through that. So I have decided to take action on behalf of all who have been hurt by wicked people who file fake RipOff Reports. Earlier today I drove to the outskirts to visit an old gypsy women respected in these parts for her wisdom and power. I paid what she asked and made the sacrificial offering. We said her magic words over the flame. What was said will be done. It is indescribable in words. Stare into my avatar and you will see a glimpse into their future.

 

[yukon]

It is indispensable to mention here that hiring a rip off report removal service that you can conveniently find on the internet is going to be a commendable idea if you want to fix the issue once and for all. No doubt it is going to cost you a bit of your money in order to hire such services, but think about it, isn’t it better to spend that small amount of money willingly rather than being ripped off and getting your reputation ruined that leads to a considerably higher monetary loss.