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Need to know from expert Cold Caller

alanmark

New member
Guys, as this forum is a offline marketing forum and we all know that cold calling is a one vital part of offline marketing. So I just need to know from anyone from this community that How much calls on average do you make per day and from those how many are successful, I mean from them how many appointments do you get?

One of my friend who is a offline marketer since 2000 has told me that for newbies 20 out of 200 is the satisfactory number. Is that true? I wanted to be sure about the number.
 

Jason Kanigan

New member
This is a post I made on another forum, but it answers your question.

How To Figure Out the # of Dials You Need To Make

Read and apply this, or remain an inconsistent phone prospector.

You need to be able to back into your # of dials necessary to hit your revenue target.

Yeah, your list quality might be poor and that will affect your dials to conversations ratio. No question. However, if you don't track dials you'll never find that out, other than a sense that it's taking a lot of dials to get to talk to someone.

If your list is lousy, don't you want to know that ASAP so you can change your source?!

Also, you track these numbers on a daily, weekly, monthly and all time basis (easy to do by spreadsheet). You'll improve in your skill as well as your phone # sources, so over time these ratios will improve. But you have to start somewhere.

To manage we must measure.

That phrase was beat into my head over two intensive years of Operations Management training. That's how you continuously improve on your situation.

So how do we back into our # of dials needed to get to our revenue target?

Let's say we have a 6 month revenue target of $50,000. I know that would be excellent for newbies. You design websites, and decide $1,000 is the average price you're comfortable at.

So right away we know we have to sell 50 of these things in the 6 months to hit our target.

You just started making prospecting calls, so you know your ratios aren't going to be great yet. Since you don't have actual data at this point, you use a tough ratio of 20 dials to get one conversation, and another tough one of 20 conversations to get one sale. You might be better than this, and at that point you can adjust your numbers, but for now this is an OK place to start.

So to get one sale, we predict that 20 dials x 20 conversations = 400 dials to get one sale. Seems a little high, but our newbies aren't so great on the phone yet. And we'd rather overestimate than under, at this point.

400 dials for 1 sale = 400 x 50 = 20,000 dials over the 6 months! Whew!

6 months = 6 x 4 weeks x 5 days = 120 working days to make those dials.

20,000 / 120 = 167 dials per day to hit the target. Worst case.

Gulp.

But now you know. 20 dials a day ain't gonna do it. 50 dials a day won't get you there.


Say after 2 months you've developed some skill. The real figures you're experiencing are 15 dials to get a conversation, and 12 conversations to get an order. 15 x 12 = 180 dials to make a sale now, those are your real numbers, and so you need to make a total of 180 x 50 = 9,000 dials in the 6 months to make your money target. That's 9,000 / 120 working days = 75 dials a day.

Whew.


Now you start adding in other prospecting methods into your plan: referrals, talks, webinars, seminars, joint ventures, etc. Each of these will have its own conversion ratio (eg. the right kind of referral will close 50%+ of the time, meaning if you get 2 in a month you have a great chance of closing 1...and that removes the need for 400 dials for our brand spanking newbie, doesn't it?). These really add up. 6 months into your business, and you should have leads and sales coming from other sources, so that prospecting calls, while remaining as a source, isn't so heavily relied upon as your revenue generator.

Make sense? This is the kind of thing that separates amateurs from professionals who want consistent, measurable results.
 

jsmm

New member
I guess you mean cold calling on the phone not walking in' Right?

I will do both!
Walking in I have almost a 100% when I get in front of the decision maker because I am targeting a certain problem that I found out about what they are doing and I do all of my homework before I even think about walking into a business.


Second you shouldn't be doing your own calling in the first place on a phone..
That is your VA (virtual assistants) job!
If you want to successful. That is..

I have mastered cold calling after over the years of seeing what doesn't work and know have it down to a science.
I got so good at it that I only work on referral now..

Today I turn down more clients then I except and switch the demand and make myself the one that is in demand and by doing this their is two giant benefits
1. I do not work with a business that is going to nickel and dime me
2.) I get to charge a lot more for my services

The trick is to find a problem first that they are doing and then educate them on how their competition is doing it better and if they are going to compete in the same market then they are going to need to Fix This Now Right Away!

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rasel123

New member
umm, I have gone through your post. It was very helpful. Can you suggest me a good source of high converting phone lists?. So far I have found are provided here: http://offlinemarketingforum.com/co...eted-list-obtained-cold-calling.html#post1213. Is there any other good sources out there? Do I have to hire any freelancer to collect phone lists? How about collecting phone lists from Craigslist?

I have already replied in your previous post about building list for cold calling. As I mentioned before, Manual List building is more effective than buying list from other companies. If you want to buy list of phone numbers of potential clients for your cold calling campaign, you can use InfoUSA, Jigsaw, Hoover and Harte Hanks Market Intelligence (for technology leads). I think you can also look into Craigslist for building your list of phone numbers of potential clients.
 

michelwill

New member
How can I be the best cold caller?
11 Cold Calling Tips While on the Call
Keep Your Goal in Mind. ...
Use Social Proof to Influence Behavior. ...
Ask Open-Ended Questions. ...
Watch Your Tone of Voice. ...
Don't Give an Easy Out. ...
Lead with Them, Not You. ...
Listen. ...
Don't Waste Their Time.

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